Mongols Overview AoE2 Spirit Of The Law 360K subscribers Subscribe 9K Share 627K views 7 years ago Brush up on your Khan references and join me in looking at this popular AoE2 civilization.. I'm glad you liked it, and remember me if this info is useful to you when facing Mangudai , Ngl didn't read this all, but one time I was playing Mongol mirror and my Mangudai Hussar combo got crushed by Camel Skirm Hussar. THE MONGOLS BONUSES AND UNIQUES Cavalry Archers fire +20% faster Light Cavalry +30% HPs Hunters work +50% faster Team Bonus: Scout Cavalry +2 LoS UNIQUE UNIT: Mangudai: super buff anti-Siege Cavalry Archer UNIQUE TECH: Drills: Siege Weapons move +50% faster WONDER: Pleasure Tent? That means that many units could in theory kill 1v1 an unmicroed Mangudai easily. Despite having access to all the infantry upgrades at the Blacksmith, the Mongols have no Halberdiers, which deprives them of a useful late game counter to cavalry and means their infantry is not as strong as it could be, although their ability to create Camel Riders offsets this weakness. Age of Empires 2 is a real-time based strategy game. With the Chinese and Japanese, the Mongols are one of the civilizations belonging to the East Asian culture. Age of Empires game Mongols voice REMIX by Z22 BEATSart by Oana-D Civilizations with good Onagers may also counter the Mongol Cavalry Archers if they forgot to micro them. As a cavalry archer civilization, the Mongols have excellent mounted archers, arguably the best of all civilizations. So take a seat and grab some popcorn. Strategy in general describes a plan to reach a certain goal which is for AoE2 building up a strong economy, train military and defeat your opponents. Will we finally learn how to defeat the Mongols in the Imperial Age? The Nomads technology no longer allows house foundations to increase population by being destroyed, so now they have to build houses completely again. Plumed Archers will resist better arrows, but their low attack will leave them vulnerable to Hussars. But of course, that shouldnt be the case. I hope our content helps you feel more confident in your games. They were fierce warriors who fought each other over pasturelands and raided developed civilizations to the east and south. On closed maps like Black Forest houses can sometimes work as a makeshift defense, as nothing is lost if they get destroyed. Halberdiers can support them to deal with Hussars, who deal 10 damage to them. They should be well protected both from Hussars and Mangudai, and, if hurt, vills behind can repair them. Both can take a million hits from Mongols while hitting them hard. The Mongols also have access to powerful siege weapons. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! Scouts are a standard build order to learn, but often you find yourself making scouts and being countered by an opponents spearman. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. In the Notes column I added the strat to follow: And all of this started when someone asked if Turk or Tatar HCA were better against Mongols! In update 37650, the Mongols lose access to the Supplies technology, which is meant to balance out their strong early-game hunting work bonus, and adding a counterplay to the Mongols' late-game army composition of Mangudai, Hussars, and siege (for example, the Goths). They are based on various central Asian Turkic empires such as the Timurid Empire and the Golden Horde. A wise decision is to consider your own Light Cavalry, who are fast, cheap and arrow resistant against an army composed of Cav Archers, Light Cavalry and Siege. Their main disadvantage is a big weakness to Camels (Mongols can easily tech into them). Mongols get a crazy early game bonus for hunting. Regular Cav Archers are way too expensive. Hussite Wagons, as siege, are not supposed to be used against Mangudai, but in fact their performance against them is quite good. Even prominent defensive civilizations such as Byzantines, Teutons and Incas will have a harder time dealing with the Mongol fast moving siege engines. Well leave these also apart and start considering the scout line. You don't go for the Deer in most games because 1 - they might spawn too far thus making your Villagers vulnerable to harassment and 2 - sometimes only 3 Deer spawn and it's not worth the Wood cost. Privacy Policy. AoE2 Strategy Center is a place to find strategies and guides to use in Age of Empires 2.Guides are mainly intended to use in Age of Empires 2: The Conquerors but some may also be able to use in the Age of Kings. The better the Mangudai micro, the heavier the losses will be. The Mongols also appear in Age of Empires IV with access to the a cavalry archer unit with the same name, although the depictions of the Mongols in Age of Empires IV incorporate civilization bonuses from other Age of Empires II civilizations (i.e. Since it spans a greater time period and covers a much wider area than Age of Empires, the game play takes a long time and can easily become boring. Learn siegecraft from Chinese engineers and demolish even the sturdiest cities while you build the greatest empire that the world has ever seen! The issue is that 1) Not all civs get access to Camels 2) Their base armor is 0/0, thus leaving them vulnerable to attacks. When the mangudai is uppgraded to elite status they have 0 missile delay. Here, Mongol Hussars become a problem, because they kill easily Skirms, while tanking fire and not allowing you to aim for Mangudai. A Burmese Battle Elephant + Skirm + BBC slow push could also be surprising for a greedy Mongol enemy, but by the time you get to this costly combo, Mongols can take map control and start pushing your base with Mangudai. Here, infantry meatshield in front of Longbows can work well, since theyll still be out of range of Mangudai. Arguably the best siege in the game with drill. Magyars can outnumber them with their cheaper Hussars and. Complementing their fast units is their excellent siege weapons which also receive a great speed boost thanks to Drill. Similarly Goths can counter the contingents of Mongol Cavalry Archer army by swarming Huskarls as they have attack bonus vs Archers and high pierce armor, this combined with disposable and fast created Halberdiers will make the Mongols to have a hard time. Mangudai (non-Elite) frame delay reduced to 5. Their main advantage is that they are also good raiders and a 3-4 group of them can harass Mongol economy. Please do not think I hate Mongols. Hi all! His ambition was to rule all lands between the oceans (Pacific and Atlantic) and he nearly did so. With their unique technology Drills the siege workshop units move 50% faster. Mongol Hussars can delay the chase of Mangudai and gain time for them to kill Cavaliers and Paladins. Once the player builds up a Castle, they should start to switch to the Mangudai as their preferred Cavalry Archer. As it can be seen, a mass of 20 of these units can one shot kill Mangudai. But the Gold medal here goes to Genoese Crossbowmen, who have a huge bonus attack against both Mongol units, while tanking hits a bit better than Arbalesters, Longbowmen or Chukonus. Build your barracks before clicking up, and either force them to respond to your army (M@A skirms trushing their gold), or fend them off to go for castle age. Mongols also have access to all siege weapons except Bombard Cannons and can fully upgrade their Champions, when Mongols reach the Imperial Age they must start to combine their Cavalry Archers, Mangudai and Hussars with siege weapons and some infantry, the Drill technology allows to their siege to move a lot faster than normal, so their siege weapons have a chance to retreat or attack sooner than expected. Their unique unit, the Mangudai, is a Cavalry Archer with a bonus against siege weapons. On the water, the lack of Dry Dock is really unfortunate, since it means their ships miss out on an important speed boost. As a primarily Teuton player, I can't help but feel like Mongols were designed specifically to fuck us over. Just be careful with early raids and build enough Castles to support unit production. Well consider later a few exceptions to this rule. Learn the build for a 15 minute fast castle into a 3 town-center boom. The Mongols are an offensive civilization that focuses on its ranged units and emphasizes guerilla tactics. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Update 47820 slightly nerfed the speed of Mangudai, making it a bit harder for them to kite enemies. Mongols get a crazy early game bonus for hunting. 120. I'll take it as a compliment. An exception could be new Howdah Burmese Elephants, who only take 3 damage per Mangudai shot to a total of 107 arrows required to kill them. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Age of Empires II: The Genghis Khan Campaign - IGN Watch out for enemy Onagers, who can shred a whole Skirm army. You are free to do the same. AOE is back once again. It will be a good time to take map control with Castle on hills (which also help massing Mangudai). That lets them advance fast to Feudal Age (below 20pop) and open with m@a or scouts. They do everything. Leitis are far weaker to Mangudai (1 pierce armor). In 1368 the Yuan dynasty in China was overthrown in favor of the Ming.In the 1370s a Turkish-Mongol warrior claiming descent from Genghis Khan fought his way to leadership of the Mongol states of Central Asia and set out to restore the Mongol Empire. What it essentially means is foreigners. Rams and Scorpions will be shredded by Mongols. Mongols have very good Scout Cavalry, they have extra hit points once they are upgraded to Light Cavalry and a better line of sight. Their Monks are among the worst of all civilizations, and their defensive structures are not great either. Looking at numbers and seeing how easy they are to mass, Camels pose a threat to the Mongol army composition. Notice than some of the civs dont even get a unit in bold. Similarly, the Cumans, after researching Cuman Mercenaries, lets the Mongols train 5 free Elite Kipchaks per Castle, which will benefit from the fast-firing bonus the Mongols have for Cavalry Archers. The Mongols are an offensive civilization that focuses on its ranged units and emphasizes guerilla tactics. Finally, Janissaries seem a sensible option, being tankier than HCs and outranging Mangudai. They have access to all siege weapons except for the Bombard Cannon, giving them a strong offensive edge. Xbows seem the shortest way, since they need most of the techs needed for Mangudai. I wont delay much with infantry units, because they are mostly shredded by this composition. The massive number of civilizations in AoE 2 plays a big role in its success, and we'll be diving deeper into each one of them with this guide. I wont consider mirror matches. They pretty much have no real weakness. AboutPressCopyrightContact. He rushed west defeating an Egyptian Mameluke army in Syria. They also appear in: In-game, Mongol units speak the Khalkha variety of Mongolian, the most widely spoken of the Mongolic languages and the official language of modern-day Mongolia. Age of Empires Series Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. It is especially usefull for the siege ram. But I still feel that any of the civs who get most of the HCA upgrades can mirror the Mongol composition without the issue of depending on a Castle to mass their HCA. Especially for civs who rely strongly on them and dont have a top cavalry support (Vikings, Vietnamese, Britons, Ethiopians,..) massing 40 arbalester could do the trick if you aim to reduce Mangudai numbers. Like literally every game and it's the only non-siege unit they make. The Fast Castle into Boom, one of the best beginner build orders for closed maps. The best performance against Mongols is for Magyars, Tatars, Turks, Indians, Japanese and Saracens. This is of course before the game enters into the trash wars. The rest of the units are shown, just to give an example of how effective they could become if they happen to engage Hussars or Mangudai, but its likely that the best they could do, as I said, is protecting siege under a Castle from Mongol Hussar sniping. For more information, please see our Hunters work 50% faster While these stats make them more vulnerable to ranged units than FU generic Hussars, they are much tankier against melee units, and are used as a meatshield for Mangudai and siege, while these are firing from behind. Boyars have an amazing performance against Hussars, just taking 1 damage from them! The first three have more than 2 pierce armor, and Huszars, apart from beating Mongol Hussars 1v1, have a huge bonus attack against siege that could give an end to the Mongol push: Tarkans and Keshiks have a similar performance, with the former resisting a more arrow fire while attacking a bit slower. They are also the only civilization that lacks all Imperial economy technologies. In contrast, Civilization is a slow-paced , turn-based strategy (TBS) game. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. 10 villager builds house and lures boar. A very good complement to Paladins are Skirmishers, who can deal tons of damage to Mangudai while Paladins tank arrow fire. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Your Hussars will die (unless you use exclusively Scorps) but so will your enemy's units. 01:43:00 - Le premier dbat : Polmique Orelsan : Le terme "mongol" est-il insultant ? They get arbalest and heavy cav archer - the HCA firing faster due to a civ bonus. The trick is to understand why it depends and this will allow you to figure out on the fly what you need to do to win. Join. Like most Age of Empires II strategies, there are plenty of versions of the same build order that people try out depending on civilization, enemy, and map layout. Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings/Mongols - StrategyWiki That lets them advance fast to Feudal Age (below 20pop) and open with m@a or scouts. I hope you liked it and every feedback and further analysis from more experienced players will be welcome. Other prominent camel civilizations such as Saracens, Malians, Gurjaras, and Hindustanis can also effectively counter the Mongol cavalry. They also have a better meatshield than Mayans in Light Cavalry. Micro is crucial and a good Mongol Onager shot can be devastating, but for some of these civs BBCs are also available to deal with the Onager before Mangudai kill them. Mangudai Rate of Fire increased (made slower) to 2.1. So You Want To Play Mongols - YouTube Attempted invasions of Japan were thrown back with heavy loss in 1274 and 1281. In-game, the Mongol main army composition consists of Light cavalry, cavalry archers, and siege weapons. The Mongols then turned west, capturing the great trading city Bukhara on the Silk Road in 1220. All photos and videos related to Age of Empires II were created under Microsoft's "Game Content Usage Rules" using assets from Age of Empires II, and it is not endorsed by or affiliated with Microsoft. The attack bonus against rams is removed. Nothing feels better than overwhelming everyone with a Mangudai tsunami. A Battering Ram filled with infantry will be able to move at the same speed as cavalry, allowing them to demolish buildings and flee before the opponent can muster a counter-attack. Hi there. Chukonus have a difficult micro and lower range but strong power, so they must be supported by Chinese Cavalry (I suggest Camels or Light Cavalry here). Their speed and fast fire rate make them very versatile compared to other unique units. It holds over 1000 years of war and economy from Dark Age to Imperial Age. Their lack of Ring Archer Armor and Plate Barding Armor causes their Hussars and Mangudai to be more vulnerable than they might otherwise be; this combined with their lack of Paladins means that their late game heavy cavalry is very much below par. In-game, the Mongol main army composition consists of Light cavalry, cavalry archers, and siege weapons. But if you feel inspired, you may turn the tide and scrap a difficult win. Again numbers and an insane micro will be needed to take a fight like this effectively. Arbalesters have the advantage of outranging Mangudai, thus getting the first hit. The biggest issue when it comes to heavy cavalry is that both Mangudai and Hussars are faster than them (except Cumans!!!). You HAVE to get those two Boars in every Random Map game. < Mongols (Age of Empires II) Edit Civilization Technology tree Strategy Contents 1 Overview 1.1 Civilization bonuses 1.2 Unique units 1.3 Unique technologies 2 Tech tree key 3 Military 3.1 Barracks 3.2 Archery Range 3.3 Stable 3.4 Siege Workshop 3.5 Castle 3.6 Dock 3.7 Monastery 4 Defensive structures 5 Research 5.1 Blacksmith 5.2 University 1- Tree Hop. While we all agree that the best way to beat Mongols is a strong push on Castle Age or early Imperial before they mass 20+ Mangudai, many of us dont have the ability or confidence to carry out effectively a Castle Age push. In-game, the Mongols are specified as a cavalry archer civilization. Turks artillery for a longer range and Houfnice upgrade for Bohemians could help with the survival of BBCs. 11 and 12 villager chop wood. Replace Goth flood with Genoese and replace Magyar Huszar with war wagons. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. In this case, Paladins should try to kill as many Hussars as possible, who pose a threat to Skirmishers. Skirmishers are the main common counter to Mangudai. From StrategyWiki, the video game walkthrough and strategy guide wiki, Age of Empires II HD: The African Kingdoms, Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition - Lords of the West, Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition - Dawn of the Dukes, Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition - Dynasties of India, https://strategywiki.org/w/index.php?title=Age_of_Empires_II:_The_Age_of_Kings/Mongols&oldid=719473. So well leave Elephants apart. As the Mongols were considered a "nomadic" civilization, they have access to the regional Steppe Lancer unit. They're just flat out amazing. Mangudai have a train time of 21 seconds. 6 sheep. So if you want to trace the roots of Mongol strategy study Sima Qian's and Ban Gu's chapters on the Xiongnu and the Han dynasty commanders who fought them. The criteria for HCA consideration include Thumb Ring, Bloodlines and Husbandry, and only lacking one of these (Bracer, Parthian Tactics, Ring Archer Armor). Their lack of speed guarantees them taking shots to death from Mangudai and Mongols switching their push if they find an inexpugnable fortress. A well-crafted and complete title, capable of offering exactly what one expects from a modern RTS. Despite their fierce mobile cavalry, their Monks and foot soldiers are below average, missing several key technologies across the board. I will consider though, Tarkans, Boyars, Keshiks and Magyar Huszars. The Mongols' civilization icon is based on the, The Mongols are the only East Asian civilization that can research, The Mongols are believed to acquire gunpowder during their conquests of China and used it in several forms such as Fire Lances and "naphtha-shooters" through their invasions of. Mangudai train time increased to 26 seconds. Cookie Notice Non-elite Mangudai are now way better than ordinary Cavalry Archers, as their delay time (the time between the start of the shooting animation and the actual shoot of the arrow) has been reduced from 10 to 5, making them stronger at hit-and-run tactics. The extra line of sight of their Scout Cavalry also allows for the Mongols and their allies to find their herdables, and explore, faster. We also get two tanks that can be a nasty surprise for Mongols: War Wagons and Elephant Archers. Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition 'Fast Castle' strategy guide For this matchup, Hussars and Light Cavalry depend enormously on getting Plate Barding Armor and Blast Furnace to be at least effective when fighting Mangudai. Brilliant work and I hope you keep enjoying the game for many years to come. Monks will have a limited use. If Paladins or Cavaliers catch the Mangudai, both units will quickly kill them, but the cost effectiveness here will be much worse. Age of Empires Series Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. You will power through the Dark Age because you are chowing down on the Wild Boars much faster than everybody else. 15 Skirms cant fight 15 Mangudai. That makes the difference of being able to chase the Mangudai army, whod need a very intensive micro or even to stop the push to deal with a Paladin army. It led to the point of not only get me to hate that unit despite being one of the strongest in the game but also not knowing anything else the civ could do. In 1402 he defeated a large Ottoman Turk army near modern Ankara. Mongols Overview AoE2 - YouTube Mangudai can hit-and-run forever (even though the speed difference is not high) and by the time theyre chased, Cavaliers/Paladins will have suffered a lot of damage, or even be dead. and our Privacy Policy. Looking at it, we know that a group of 20+ Mangudai will certainly 1 shot kill our Hussar, but the latter are cost effective against them. In addition, their additional HP bonus for the Scout Cavalry line also applies to their Steppe Lancers, which make them an interesting option for fast raids on masses of cluttered units, and a viable alternative to the Knight line or the Scout line (the latter if gold is available). This lets them hold off on Farming long enough to buy Horse Collar so they have efficient farms, and they can also use it to help fuel a Scout rush, being able to afford Bloodlines and even Forging. This last advantage also applies for their faster-attacking Cavalry Archers. Stupid China. Age of Empires II 1999 Browse game Gaming Browse all gaming 46:59 So You Want To Play Mayans | Aoe2 Hera - Age of Empires 2 184K views 2 years ago 32:44 What Can Mongols Do Vs Berbers Hera -. Unite the fractious tribes of the Mongolian steppe and lead vast mounted hordes to the edges of the known world. Age of empires ii 1 viewers gadzookzzz. They also do not get Supplies, making their Militia line more food-intensive. The Mongols don't have to worry about either. Your potent Mangudai shower all who dare stand in your way with a storm of arrows while tumens of lightning-quick cavalry ride them down into the dirt.Description[1], The Mongols' civilization music theme in the Definitive Edition. New artwork, new animations, and new civilizations. "Fuck you, I'm faster so I'll run away and shoot more arrows! They can still be vulnerable against Onager volleys (see in disadvantages). Check out my other channels:2nd Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjUwIOOs3FwLeK0zqo_m4FQLive Stream https://www.facebook.com/gaming/theviperTheVip. Europe was spared as Mongol rulers concentrated their efforts against the Middle East and southern China. Hussars are not going to be able to stand up against Paladins but they're way cheaper and you can put a glob of them in front of your siege weapons to hold enemy units in place while the Onagers take pot shots. This page is a stub. r/aoe2 - OH MY GOD THE MONGOLS STRATEGY DISCUSSION IS COMING RUN FOR Help us expand it, and you get a cookie. Thats why they need something in front of them (probably a gold unit, although again your own Hussars could work). For that, This build lets a Mayan player fast castle and immediately place a castle and a second town center, with steady production of Plumed Archers and a third town center being, The Huns. There are several campaigns in Age of Empires II. With their higher LOS for scout cavalry line, they can "lose" a little time pushing deer to the TC to get a massive food eco advantage. In the category of Cavalry Archers we find Camel Archers, who are Mangudais kryptonite. In the Capture the Relic Game mode, as their Light Cavalry have more LOS, they can prevent enemy Monks from getting the Relic. With another army of 100,000 or so horsemen, he swept into Russia and Persia, fighting mainly other Muslims. Beste Verteidigung Age Of Empires 2 Hd - information online Meanwhile they can also tech into Light Cavalry and pick relics with the help of their LOS. The Mongols are the only civilization without the Central Asian building set that have access to the. One of the main weakness of the Mongols is their mediocre defense. We must not forget raids. He took Beijing in 1215 after a campaign that may have cost 30 million Chinese lives. the Huns civilization bonus of starting at maximum population is incorporated in the Age of Empires IV Mongols). Press J to jump to the feed. Welcome to the AoE2 Strategy Center. This is due to their higher Rate of Fire which greatly improves the effective damage output of not only Cavalry Archers, but also Mangudai, which in particular is arguably the best unit in the late game. Ethiopian bonus is good, but Britons firing from 11 range is the best archer-line against Mongols. Tonight we might even see the return of Subotai! Their biggest advantage is killing a Siege Ram in 11 hits, a Siege Onager in 4 hits and an unpacked Trebuchet in 7 hits. The Tatars are a Central Asian civilization introduced in Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition. Mongols can destroy me before I build BA ELO: 13+ comment sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment Parrotparser7 Additional comment actions. Overall, the Mongols are a solid civilization that is great in the early and late game, but struggles during the mid-game. For each building the Mongols ignite, they get +50 food and gold, which can add up quickly. As their Light Cavalry and Hussar gets noticeable more HP, Mongols have an advantage at trash wars, especially against civilizations that lacks the Halberdier upgrade or more buffs for the Pikemen. Wagons are also outranged by Mangudai, so theyre less effective. Civilization Bonuses: To execute this tactic, the player must upgrade their Scout Cavalry to Light Cavalry as soon as possible, create some Archery Ranges for their Cavalry Archers, and research all the required blacksmith and university technologies for improving those units. Its likely that the Onager will only have the chance to shoot once, before Mongols melt it. As their hunters work faster, they have an advantage in maps with more huntable animals than average, these include, Scandinavia, Yucatan, Black forest, Valley, and others, especially maps in which players can find more than 2 Boars or their equivalent near their initial Town Center. Light Cavalry have 30% more HP , Lyrics, Song Meanings, Videos, Full Albums & Bios Later, when Hussars are included into the Mongol army, they will become useless. So, what could each of the civs do against that? . The Mongols lived a nomadic lifestyle, often at the outskirts of other developing civilizations. Returning to another chess analogy: everyone knows the Queen is the best piece on the board. Beginning with only an estimated 25,000 warriors, he added strength by subjugating other nomads and attacked northern China in 1211. A ge of Empires II is by far the most successful entry in the series, and even after AoE 4 was released, AoE 2 still has a far larger player population! Hope you liked it ;-). Age of Empires II: The Age of Kings Campaigns William Wallace Marching and Fighting Feeding the Army Training the Troops Research and Technology The Battle of Stirling Forge an Alliance The Battle of Falkirk Joan of Arc An Unlikely Messiah The Maid of Orleans The Cleansing of the Loire The Rising The Siege of Paris A Perfect Martyr Saladin Cavaliers (except Sicilians) and Celt Paladins are less dangerous because of the many less shots for a kill, but here and there we can find a bonus that can become painful for a exchange of units (upgrading Hussar and Mangudai is much more expensive than upgrading Cavaliers even with Stirrups, Farimba, Hauberk or Szlachta privileges). Age of Empires 2 is a complex game where each military unit has a role to play in battle; each military unit is a counter for another unit and may. Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition 'Scout Rush' strategy guide You need lots of them. 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