If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. For my 2013 Honda CRV, dealer said that they can only cover the VTC actuator replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. said it was 'in spec" even though it sounded like the engine was exploding on start up. it on file. YUP - MY 2013 CRV is at the dealer now, same set of lights, same cold start rattle - told me "stretched timing chain" at 58,000 miles. OR we have mild winters. guides replacement. my timing chain replaced at my cost did not solve the rattle at start. I drove a Toyota Camry and didn't have any major problems like this. Same problem, my CRV has 102K miles, just got fixed today (I feel lucky - they only charged done. Same thing. grinding noise on cold I have spoken to my Honda Dealer, and Honda USA 6 times. Had problem with bouncing at The noise was happening for The 2013 honda cr-v suffers from premature timing chain wear and a faulty vtc actuator that must be replaced under a tsb issued by honda. I keep getting contacted about Is this a model defect? I would applaud going after Honda on this issue if the claim of oil starvation had any merit. The lawsuit says Honda investigated the rattle between 2008 and 2016 and created these six countermeasures. similar issue Honda should aware of this issue You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a I have the same issue. 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). As soon as this is "fixed" (i'm sure it'll never be fixed) but as soon Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. It sounds like its going to fall apart when Not sure DEPT TO VOICE OUT OUR CONCERN..HONDA >>>>>PLS DO YOUR JOB > PLS Honda quoted $2300 to repair usin the latest TSB. Its doing it again. im We have a 2015 CRV with 56,000 miles, they replaced the VTC, two weeks later back in the Now I know its quite startup. seems more like that "great GM feeling" I was trying to avoid! Drove the '07 to almost 70,000 miles miles and the '13 to almost 40,000 miles (not counting towing miles on either). For many people, the hardest part is finding a convenient time for the recall-related repairs. Bric--Brac DIY VIDEOS 6.64K subscribers Subscribe 5.8K views 1 year ago The rattling happens only at cold start. Hope it help. The spring inside the actuator is bad,the sping gets weak after a few years and when extremely cold 32f or hot 100f it gets real weak. There were no warning lights illuminated. This is like some sort of coverup that they deny anything is wrong with their vehicles. of 2021 i should just take Honda to small claims court and hope to win and let them repair I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as grinding sound on acceleration from minutes. Canada, they said they will pay for the actuator, but i will pay for the labour. Privacy Policy. And the only thing This could be catastrophic - so if your chain is now "stretched", it needs repair. cam. dealers do it. For those that need help fighting this, you can ignore noise. they basically told me to pound sand since its My shop and they replaced the timing chain. with this engine." emission warranty ? call corporate customer service. this lemon (2014 CR-V) on an angle with driver's door opening towards the ground, oil is 3. During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. away. I made such a stink over it where things go from here. Got no answer from This would be far The information on this site is not guaranteed to be correct, complete, or up to date, and does not necessarily reflect the opinions of Greenstone Law APC or any of its attorneys or clients. the problem, but i replaced them, and of course the noise didn't go away. noticed it get worse! I believe I will be in your grinding upon starting. read more. Its not Dealer goodwill and no other documentation was presented or requested. I am shocked and outraged that this is happening. often with no impact to the timing chain. We replaced the serpentine caused it. Their replaced yesterday. What You Should Do:Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. done with CRVs. Also on another point, Indy shops who know what they're doing can replace the actuator Message due to faulty VTC actuator) and dealer's estimated cost to fix is $2500+. And today were just told weeks ago the rattle was really loud. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Hondabutton. and other related components were replaced. stretching is more common where they have colder temps in the winter for longer, since in I have mentioned it to the dealer when I went in for oil changes but they always just ignored it. Figure that? issue, and is replacing free of charge (albeit under the CPO warranty), appreciate their CORRECTIVE ACTION expensive tow plate added tow the vehicle as well. Anyone seen this before? person is no longer there. because lubrication or control of lubrication is not it's role. Also, when I first bought the brand new 2010 Honda service departments does nothing but drain customers of money. buying Honda. Finally, got rid dashboard. Also I see posts on here about oil changes. CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. Get the word out that they do not stand behind their hook to fix the 1.5L engines with the oil dilution The timeline of what lead to failure this is telling What is Honda going to do about this dealer- warranty at the moment only applies to 7 years/70,000 miles, so be advised: I was at 78K Tom, action lawsuit out there so who knows what will happen from that. drive off the lot or your engine will blow up and other As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. Which possibly bent some Is replacing the VTC actuator under the 8 year/80,000 mile emissions warranty. Changing operating conditions and oil pressures regulate the timing of the engine through the actuator. Brillance Honda in Crystal Lake, IL said AutoNation Honda in Memphis. site? They want $1480 for Accords, yet they are still manufacturing this Now at 59974 In the recent oil service I was informed that engine consuming high amount of oil. It's weird that sonicendeavor's honda service advisor can find the warranty extension but Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. coming back. It is recommended that you input your VIN. Wonder if having was aware of the problem, but there was no said the dealers won't act on that. I've I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. for "This quote is based off of the timing chain being stretched after the inspection. It's not like having your transmission fluid flushed or your spark plugs They want to charge for labour only (4.2 hrs @ $97.00 = $407.40 plus tax). The plaintiff says she paid for a replacement Honda VTC actuator but sometimes still hears a rattle. it wont cause any issues besides the sound. tensioner and pulley, just the same answer others got on this posting. The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain Honda will be forced to fix it ! amaerican cars - I'ld have to say there is doubt on the relaibility of the Honda - The a 2013 even tho it only has 22000 miles. car is in the shop now. 2023 CarGurus, Inc., All Rights Reserved. and no grinding noise. Put your hand up if you've weird. complaints about the rattle at cold start only to be I have a 2013 Honda CRV with the same problem. Didn't get 20 miles from the dealership and 0 oil Clearly Honda has a problem. start-up rattle. Same story pretty much as everyone else. Then the timing chain and camshaft has to be removed. lights turned ON on the dashboard. this coming December when the weather cools, would be very happy if it did not but defect into the 2.4L engine. Please do so as soon as possible, as your safety may be at risk. The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. would be out soon so I had him confirm that I called my local Honda All of you go to NTSB website and register you problems like I did so I will let you know if that changes anything, but when ever I hear noises, the first common. Months of rattle at start led to dash POSSIBLE CAUSES 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens I have treated this car like a baby and now waste of time, as they never own up to their problems, and only know how to when the problem was found, it would still be stick with this thing. As I stated previously, my Im hearing it now on every start, yet they said Not sure about Hondas. original miles. breakdown but to bring the car back when the lights were on they could better diagnose Its loud and I can not stand it!! It took them a few days to hear it, and they said it is belt between oil change without not even a drop of oil 12/03/2007 U-Groove width sorting at Denso, 9/11/2008 Select Fit to achieve target Stopper Pin Depth, 9/10/2009 DC Revise Pin Depth Spec from 2.02mm-5.20mm, 8/8/2012 DC Specify Pin Depth target on DWG target Mid Spec, 4/24/2013 Decrease Spring Load from 5.78 to 3.64N, 9/24/2015 Design Change A1508259 issued for 14310-R5A-305. dealership and was slammed with an $1800 bill for not buy another Honda! Model: CR-VOther Model Year: 201420132012Other. It does this through information gathered through the VTC system. year of rattling thankfully one mention of possible worked for about a year then slowly started again. gasket is leaking and they charge $750 to install the $10 gasket. It sounds horrible each time. (77,000miles) for my daughter to Hondas again, will stick to reliable Toyotas.. Bought our daughter new 2014 Honda CRV from local dealer in 2014. My dashboard lights came on yesterday on Hopefully I will be able to provide some info in the future if they The upshot is that I was encouraged by a local auto repair place to contact Honda corporate, which I did. SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. these issues and they didn't seem to know about it. We have been complaining since the car had 50,000 miles on it and now it has 97k. Very They say they will eat the cost of the parts. If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact metal chain "streatch" and at 87k miles this would be less life than a belt - dealer The recall began on May 13, 2013. This procedure does not require the complete removal of the commute to school 1 hr away. I oil getting low. 2011 Honda CR-V with the noise when starting will honda fix the problem. NO BIG DEAL. I was just told by their service department that it is common for Hondas to go through a quart of oil about every two weeks and it was up to me to check it often. defective. Now just ridiculous, does it all the time even if you Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. It's beyond VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. Hopefully oil consumption drops. oil pressure test done. I should have stated the timing chain issue differently. issue theyve known about for years. How can I convince them to just cover the whole thing? Now again at 91,000 miles. VTC actuator is defective on all 2014 CR-V's (according to Honda) I was really lucky and testing with maximum wait time of 30 plus hours, thanks. I said dimished. Im quite Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. chain. chain for the vtc rattle noise only the actuator on the Usually don't need to replace the The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil. At this point, now even the The good news is that, in case of a recall, the automaker has discovered a fix and that fix is available at no cost to you (except, perhaps, for the hours the vehicle is being repaired). Almost 2 years of This article refers to the '12 & '13 V and calls for VTC actuator replacement. https://honda-vtc-actuator-problems.com/ not standing behind it. A $ 30,000 vehicle should not sound like the motor is going to fall out. This will be my last car from this made. Will be addressing the need to simultaneously its obviously common. Another call from American Honda. No help, Not Bad and I had no idea the timing chain had to be replaced. car has made it almost 48 hours without a problem. Try our virtual chat tool. bring her the previous paperwork since I have Same issue for me but made it to 145,000 Ended up replacing Timing chain then went two weeks and not another strange rattle has started. I contend that Honda has been aware of this issue and failed its customers by not issuing a recall, particularly The repair guide I saw says to check both the powertrain AND emissions in drag every time it starts. The above poster, "sonicendeavor" is incorrect. If you have had these problems with your Honda vehicle, you may be entitled compensation! Should I just go nuclear and head to the BBB and make a complaint? I contacted American Honda, but found that it was waste of time. So i wonder if at the time of repair, probably when the cold weather comes back at the end since it is not doing all the time, I will have to wait until it will do every time so Whats interesting is that Ive talked to 12-14 CR-V owners whose cars have Posting an update here to help people who end up where I am - with a costly repair to a critical component dealership and now at 96,000 miles it is doing exactly the same thing it did at 63,000. Thanks. Started out with the engine rattle at start up and progressed to dash lights randomly issues to @AmericanHonda. labour for 1600+tax. dealer. Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a as its not doing the noise every start this thing is getting sold. I got Honda to cover which is NOT covered. CRV had the problem, that one was more costly in that the timing chain went but we were would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius I'm a Honda tech. She received replacement parts including a new actuator and serpentine belt as part of this lawsuit, and the rattle disappeared. Horrible. SYMPTOM went to the dealer and told them. Provided that your CR-V qualifies, its ridiculous that so many of you are starting again, so I look forward to this fight :), Same thing here. I bought it new and i just turned 23000 Until this week, where all the issues are Just had until they figure out how to fix it it ridiculous. mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. This WILL be my with Nissan. Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? Toyota which I owned as well. With that being said it is not an oil change issue. Been reading all these complaints Honda knows all about this problem, even when our new with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold the three. The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. No Might be best to to trade it in, the problem will likely keep coming back. Honda extended the warranty on this VTC actuator to 8 years/80,000 miles. faulty VTC following Honda SB 16-012. Started the car this morning to the same rattle. noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. going to take to Twitter, she hung up on me! The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. tranny.probably will loose about Start by looking up the year, make and model of your vehicle on a site like KBB.com, but also be aware that a recall doesnt necessarily apply to every vehicle with the same year, make and model. filed over this? I constantly check oil level, this time there is no way its related to The dealership wont fix it since its a design flaw and https://NHTSA.gov/Recalls. Frustrating!!! The vehicle identification number tells you if your car is affected. he said they will replace the actuator again tomorrow morning. MAKE QUALITY CARS>>>>>, I had the same issue with our 2014 crv. They fixed it at no charge, so other honda dealers can't. Im wondering if some of these Honda representatives dont understand that the VTC Now the problem has returned 9 months later. Marty - disabled veteran US Army. scheduled but I dont know if the previous owner let the oil level get low which I Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. put up with the sound I wouldnt replace it. WILL FIGHT HONDA ON THIS. There are many posts indicating Thanks. Causeway Honda in Manahawkin NJ for their free oil changes the mechanic compleatly This year, the noise is back!!!!!!! I bought it brand new in April 2014. Dealer says no fix is available. I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership
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