As your confusion increased, you probably felt a stronger need to make things happen the way they should, while your partner accused you of obsessively tracking his or her every move. 2 weeks later his wife tried killing him, leaving him in the hospital for 3 months. I agree mostly with your last paragraph, but I wonder how close the LWs perception of the assignments is to reality or whether it might actually be closer to what you described. We watched Space Camp WAY too many times and tried astronaut ice cream together. Liquid Luck So, dont deprive your daughter of the sort of things you learn about life when doing not fun things with one of your parents. lets_be_honest I dont get the sense that the dad is making any effort to get to know his daughter he just wants a reflection of himself and is acting like an immature ass in the process. "If your family don't want to see both of you . I had NO IDEA what that was, so I did the can-can. But since we dont know which type of person the girls father is (bullying and hurtful, or rude/stubborn yet ultimately well-meaning) I think its helpful that people who had experience in this issue can comment. Shes interested in piano, archery, musicals and science fiction. Theres forcing your kids to do something outside of their comfort zone, normal range of interests which I am ok with and then theres refusing to listen to music in the car EVER? WWS, especially You may not see the rewards right away. Hes not interested in that because that would require work and compromise on his part. My dad got me into the Beatles and Hendrix, so I hear that! Instead of, I want you to read this by this day, and then well have a talk, how about, I found this and thought it was interesting. Do I look back on those times with my dad now and appreciate the time we spend together? This is NO accident. Hes embarrassing her. Extend invitations on appropriate occasions. July 2, 2013, 11:03 am. lets_be_honest I was all set to like this until you said shes only TWELVEshell eventually grow out of the fangirldom. Why is it not ok for adults to like these shows?? Either the Dads behavior is bad enough that she needs to draw a line and tell him to stop with the eye-rolling and turning off the TV for no good reason; or it isnt and she needs to prioritize her marriage and get back to being team parent. FWIW, I didnt get that vibe either, Fabelle. She along with his son & ex wife all live 3000 miles away. I think you should also look at your marriage, because in my observation, the us vs. them thing often stems from problems between the husband and wife, which drives one of them to try to make their child an ally, whether its just to have a friend or as a way to outnumber the other person. However, he also needs to learn to compromise. Instead, hes insisting on discussing National Geographic articles via reading assignments then criticizes her afterword in escalating arguments. I would just like to briefly brag about my dad and how were going to this awesome music festival together this summer!!! No one ever said that being a parent would be easy, and when your husband and daughter dont get along, it can be especially difficult. July 2, 2013, 12:43 pm, Shes 12 at what age are you supposed to be more able to enjoy mindless pop culture!?! That was what I meant about finding articles that the daughter would be interested in at first. If youre finding that your husband and daughter dont seem to be getting along, it can be a difficult situation to deal with. Instead, try to understand why they are pulling away and what you can do to support them during this time. But the most consistent and deep internal driver is the terror of being controlled. Show interest in his interests. If youre not sure how to establish or improve your bond with your daughter, here are five tips: In conclusion, it is evident that a daughter needs her fathers guidance and support, especially during her teenage years. At that age when your self-esteem is barely functioning (middle school was a bitch for me and most women I know, even if you were cool and confident) I cant imagine how hurtful it must be for her to be mocked. Honestly, I think those first two sentences were the best point Wendy made. July 2, 2013, 11:15 am. I think this is a great point. July 2, 2013, 12:07 pm. Not seeing their daughters as people who can make good decisions. Every time I try to get ahead of the game, I feel like the rug is pulled out. She SHOULD be more informed and its good that her dad wants her to be. I went through an accapella phase and a disney phase and a pop punk phase, a Growing pains phase, and on and on, and he rolled his eyes and helped me set the VCR, but wasnt willing to watch it. I finally watched Firefly for the first time last night with my bf who has been begging me to watch it with him. I cried myself to sleep. Well, it made me sad that he didnt want to hear all about The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks when I read that. That being said, its important to have fun hobbies, and I agree with their is a balance. (Though I do try to find the stuff I like the best of the stuff he likes.) My first question is, would he want you to go with them when they go camping/hiking/whatever? This can cause a lot of tension in the family. He started throwing me out at 13 for reasons like my friend being weird, my hair being weird, my music being terrible, etc. Find your shared interests and go from there? So now our oldest daughter is 16 and . He's worked extremely hard for as long as I have known him, and provided a good home for me and our three children. bittergaymark bittergaymark You became a drudge, in spite of him being a great guy and loving you madlybecause. Its almost like shes commiserating with her daughter as though hes her father also. Make it a game. 8 Signs Your Partner Is Causing Harm To Your Family Relationships - Bustle But you seem to have past that point long ago) Just as your husband has tried to cultivate in her his interests. I do that with everyone I know who likes baseball, which probably makes me annoying, but its what I do. You raised a very good point that I didnt even mention. But what I really remember is my dad listening to me tell him about whatever I was interested in. Its no crime to roll your eyes at Buffy. When the symbolic slot machine pays off, you were likely to have been off and running through the interpersonal Alice in Wonderland maze again. July 2, 2013, 4:19 pm. Or find something neutral. Here are a few things to keep in mind as you navigate this difficult situation. I would challenge anyone who would suggest that the genre is a waste of time. We had some past issues that affected our relationship. That is why he is pushing her to explore new things. What To Do When Your Partner and Daughter Dont Get Along? The meaning of driving a car in a dream - WellBeing Magazine But you can help your daughter learn to cope with her feelings and manage her relationship with her father. If you would like to change your settings or withdraw consent at any time, the link to do so is in our privacy policy accessible from our home page.. If he hadnt put in the time when I was a kid, I doubt wed have that relationship. Yeah, and you definitely dont win the parenting award when you focus more on getting your kid to be your ally, as opposed to sticking up for your child. Encourage her to have fun with him. Lastly, he should NEVER tell his daughter that things she likes annoy him. If your daughter has seen how much pain and suffering can come from being in an unhappy marriage, she may not want to put herself through the same thing later on down the road. Exactly! Which sort of circles back to point that even if this dad doesnt connect with his daughters interests, he really should make an effort. lets_be_honest And I really do think he has been 100%, maybe even 110% put on the back burner. Amazing job today! Give it a look and let me know what you think. Im notorious for doing this to family and friends, but you know what? Mommy and daddy love each other. He sounds like a domineering and boring person. I helped with yard work. But in college I fell in love with art history and now I actually take days off work to go visit art museums! In short, that means they have a common reality they both share, so that each believes the other will see things in approximately the same way. They loved the entire concept and they loved the show. I reminded him that he likes sex better in the morning and he called me frigid and slept on the couch. That time was never truly enjoyable, no matter how much I enjoyed myself because I just wasnt compatible with his personality. But talking about that kind of shit non-stop is just BORING. This could be something as simple as going for a walk together after dinner or taking turns reading bedtime stories. But no amount of time spent is going to make an experience with someone who doesnt really respect you as you are more enjoyable. If anything, his dislike for it will help it belong to her more fully as she learns to separate herself from her parents. Things like going for ice cream. THIS is the problem, not the fact that a 12-year-old girl likes 12-year-old girl things. Maybe shell end up in the entertainment industry, or become a writer. But the dad is giving the kid homework? for making her suffer through these things she finds boring, but the resentment will be short-term and the benefits will last much longer. Asshole My son had his wedding days ago. Not from Scranton either! But what upset me more is his reaction. July 2, 2013, 12:45 pm. Whats ok is to have a balance. But hes so cute when hes excited about something. And I dont think that tv shows a mature, intelligent adult would watch necessarily means they are good shows to watch. Seriously though, Joss Whedon writes amazing TV his shows are some of the best the medium has to offer. How so? So is telling your daughter that the things she listens to or your conversations are annoying. It is as if some hidden combination of childhood trauma and life experience made them terrified to owe their partners anything. There are a few things that you can do to resolve the conflict between your husband and daughter: if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[320,50],'therelationshipnotes_com-leader-2','ezslot_12',132,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-therelationshipnotes_com-leader-2-0');if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[320,50],'therelationshipnotes_com-leader-2','ezslot_13',132,'0','1'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-therelationshipnotes_com-leader-2-0_1');.leader-2-multi-132{border:none!important;display:block!important;float:none!important;line-height:0;margin-bottom:7px!important;margin-left:auto!important;margin-right:auto!important;margin-top:7px!important;max-width:100%!important;min-height:50px;padding:0;text-align:center!important}Its a question that many people ask themselves, and it does not have a clear answer. Husband treats 15 year old step son badly : r/Advice Especially a board game like Cranium where everyone can shine in what theyre good at, and it can be good to pair up with someone youre different from. My junior daughter does & my husband complains all the time that she has no need for a cellphone except when she is driving. If not, don't let this spoil your friendship and do what you can to keep her busy with other things so that she has less time to focus on this guy. Sorry but I dont understand why you married him. This young girl sounds like shes already quite cultured! Camping and hiking which FRANKLY are much better for her both physically and psychologically in the long run. PS I also dont get why going camping and hiking versus Buffy-ing are mutually exclusive. Hell, even back in my day it wasnt that hard. And aside from all the other suggestions people have made, like neutral activities such as mini golf and ice cream, what about a trade? I just happened to end up having a pretty great kid, and a pretty great guy. If you find that the conflict is escalating or if there is name-calling or other disrespectful behavior, its time to intervene. I got a very different vibe from this. painted_lady I cant concentrate, I get bored, shit distracts me, I have to deal with the kids/dogs/etc and then people bitch Im not there to play, then I play badly as Im not paying attention.. so I try to get out of it then get all snitty reactions since Im not joining in having fun. He. Theres nothing wrong with mindless pop culture, imo, so long as its balanced with things opposite that. I mean ever. Did we always get along? I love it. If one of them moves over 100 miles away, then the arrangement changes to each meeting half way. 6napkinburger So I was just assuming it happened similarly for LW and her daughter. July 2, 2013, 12:51 pm. So, so not like me. She gets too invested in her daughters life. My brother did not. Addressing issues with the person whos causing the problem is just a good habit to get into, you know? I didnt read an us vs. him vibe at all. Its awesome to have your children engaged in the world (government, politics, history, etc). I was an only child, so my moms attention was nice, but I do remember thinking as a child that I wished she was normal in that she was more like a mom than a friend. And who knows how their relationship might blossom if you and your husband would only make nurturing it more of a priority. If he didnt care, then that would be more worrisome. I think I read this differently than Wendy. Hmm, Im getting a different vibe from this letter than Wendy is? Last Friday night, he worked late and came home exhausted. I had the same experience at college! My mistake then we read the play and watched the movie, and they went NUTS for the story. Frankly, her interests sound pretty varied to me for 12: reading, pop culture, sci-fi, archery, piano and Broadway. Terms & Conditions . I would suggest planning outings for just your husband and your daughter maybe to an arcade, out to a movie, mini golf,etc so that they can spend time together by themselves. July 2, 2013, 12:12 pm. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,600],'therelationshipnotes_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_9',134,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-therelationshipnotes_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0');Ultimately, its up to you whether or not you want to stay in a relationship with someone who doesnt get along with your child. You dont always get to do the things you want and sometimes have to compromise. Heck, where would we be without Star Trek? I was bookish, nerdy and fangirly so I really connect with the LWs daughter. My dad tried to practice volleyball with me even though I was awful, but I wouldnt call that trying to force me to like it. Maybe they both like pizza or Indian food or something; then Dad can take her out to dinner or cook with her. TV Review: Hitler diaries show fake news didn't begin with the internet, Notorious prisoner Charles Bronson to face public parole hearing, Big Issue seller numbers up due to cost-of-living pressures, says founder, Watch for the April 5 investment tax change, Preparing for a future sale of your business, Tom Allen is Completely committed to comedy and 'Auntie Glo', Weekend Q&A: ran Clarke from NI Opera's Nobody/Somebody, Mary Kelly: Unionists' tendency to turn a gift horse into a tin of dogmeat is legendary - and their Westminster chums are getting fed-up with it. Did I always do things he would agree with necessarily? Grow up, already. I just dont get it. One other thought is that, maybe this really isnt about the daughter, but about her and her husband, she references herself a lot in this letter, and maybe she really has a problem with the way he treats her, but she just doesnt want to admit it. I feel like Im in a relationship with two people, one who really loves me and his evil twin who emerges without warning or reason.. Surely, they can find a few places where their interests overlap a little bit. 23 Signs Your Partner Is Mentally Abusive - Bustle WTF youre her mother not her BFF get it together and help your husband round her out! Though they might not always like what they hear or see, they are not typically faced with unexpected surprises or unpredictable outcomes. I really dont think this situation falls entirely on the husband. Not talking on cell phones, thats where. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[120,600],'therelationshipnotes_com-mobile-leaderboard-1','ezslot_16',128,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-therelationshipnotes_com-mobile-leaderboard-1-0');if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[120,600],'therelationshipnotes_com-mobile-leaderboard-1','ezslot_17',128,'0','1'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-therelationshipnotes_com-mobile-leaderboard-1-0_1');.mobile-leaderboard-1-multi-128{border:none!important;display:block!important;float:none!important;line-height:0;margin-bottom:15px!important;margin-left:auto!important;margin-right:auto!important;margin-top:15px!important;max-width:100%!important;min-height:600px;padding:0;text-align:center!important}If your daughter is still young, she may not be ready to see you with anyone other than her biological father. July 2, 2013, 11:56 am. He broadened my view of the world, showed me things that I wouldnt have seen without him. You can see it in the fighting. Also, seriously, have you been on Tumblr? If the father wants his daughter to respect his interests, then he needs to be the adult and show her how adults should behave and respect hers. Shes driving me crazy and I dont know how long I can take it.. I was so annoyed! My family was big on card games and board games, but my dad didnt participate much, which bummed me out. I mean, people always try to paint themselves in the best possible light and their opponent in the worst. From Voyager, for some odd reason, The Q and the Grey really struck a chord with me and actually made me challenge all of my beliefs regarding what is beyond humanity. Addie Pray When you try to get them to acknowledge what they are doing by weaving the past into the present, they dont agree with your account of what happened. You may feel like you are caught between a rock and a hard place, trying to appease both of them while also trying to maintain the peace in your home. Even if you didn't start out as a control freak, you might have realized that you morphed into one. A museum or something might be a good start. Who knows? Being My Husbands Caregiver is Exhausting. Dear Therapist: My In-Laws Are Driving Me Nuts - The Atlantic I also really enjoyed Measure of Man which was the episode where Datas humanity is put on trial. When I was a kid, I shared a lot of interests with my mom, too, and not as many with my dad. Whatever the cause, its important to try to understand why this is happening, and take steps to rectify the situation before it causes lasting damage to your relationship with your daughter. I wanted nothing to do with my dad for a long time. 6napkinburger July 2, 2013, 3:17 pm. How Psychologically Conditioned Rats Are Defusing Landmines, 7 Ticking Time Bombs That Destroy Loving Relationships, The Single Best (and Hardest) Thing to Give Up, 3 Ways to Reclaim Your Hope and Happiness. Older and (hopefully) wiser Meh, I wouldnt call him a total jerk, I can see getting frustrated that not only does your daughter not enjoy the samethings as you, but now all of the sudden your wife doesnt either, just because your daughter doesnt. A lot of painful disappointments in life. And like I said above, I like the idea of assignments to widen your daughters horizons. Discuss that there are other things to talk about sure. I Want to Divorce My Unbelievably Selfish Husband - Slate Magazine 6napkinburger And something about him wanting the daughter to be more competitive just struck me the wrong way. Or if shes interested in other fantasy series (ex. LW, I dont think youre siding with your daughter & creating an us against him mentality; you just seem to be describing how your husbands attitude has made you feel more distant towards him as well. I have to just try harder.. What to Do When Your Ex Undermines Your Authority Read some of the most popular Dear Wendy posts here. You will learn from all of them. 6napkinburger 1. Distance In Relationship With Grown Child - Focus on the Family It's never easy when feelings like this are not returned, but she needs to accept that a relationship with this guy seems to be a non-starter. He was much kinder to them.) The eye-rolling and making the daughter feel bad about her interests is not cool. July 2, 2013, 11:53 am. She may still resent her father and you! He also occasionally went to movies with us. But for practical advice: board games. Agree i cant imagine being receptive to spending time with my dad when it consists of him mocking what my 12-year old self likes AND assigning me reading assignments. He's been this way for some time, so I suspect he will not change quickly nor easily. If you want to bring about change in your family, though, you are going to have to get him to confront the fact that his behaviour is hurtful, destructive, and possibly even cruel. If the emotional and sexual connections were rewarding, you may have been intrigued by the Houdini-like escape pattern. I mean you describe your partner (who sounds amazing BTW) as cultivating her interests and introducing her to things which doesnt sound like what this dad is doing. A father-daughter relationship is one of the most important relationships a girl can have. YES! Plus, I like Rick Castle. Just like if she says like every other word someone needs to point that out and keep pointing it out until she does something about it. But even then I would tell you to be a little more hipper and current than Buffy . Im sorry, but the father is an asshole. Whether it be balance sports with history, Buffy with science, it doesnt matter. But the problem here is not that the daughter dislikes her dads interests. Is It True? Last week she followed him home after classes again, even though his bus goes in the opposite direction to where she lives. July 3, 2013, 1:09 am, If the Mom is copying her daughters interests with such a vengeance its even more creepy. I hope that you can in the process of all this also try to strengthen your marriage, because when your daughter gets new interests in two years or doesnt want to hang out with her parents or even when she moves out of the house, your husband is going to be the one who youre left with. He likes baseball, but he doesnt want to go to games, he likes golf, but he doesnt ever go, he likes history, but he doesnt really like books, hell watch something about the JFK assassination if its on the history channel but cant be bothered to pop in a DVDgift giving, really, is impossible, as is spending time with him that doesnt involve eating. I just have to say, I have NEVER felt comfortable choosing what to watch on tv if Im in the same room as my dad because I know he thinks 95% of what Id want to watch is annoying. So the fact that there are things that he likes doing is a good start, and the fact that he wants to do those things with your daughter is excellent. As a counterpoint, I loved all the things my dad liked and he tried to do things I liked. And for your husband to expect your daughter to have more than your own vapid interests, REALLY doesnt make him a bad parent. I discovered them in college and came home like, HOW DID YOU NOT TELL ME ABOUT THIS? My Dad and I had similar interests so it was real easy to build a relationship with him with my sister not so much, he didnt know how to relate to her as she had all the same interests as my mother. July 2, 2013, 2:59 pm. I forgive you!. Ha! Theyre bonding against him because hes being hurtful to both of them. It takes a bit of work to plan activities when she comes visit me in Chicago (my parents are happily married, but visit me separately) but we bound over food and shopping for kitchen stuff! Hey, that kind of worked for me. Visitation Pick Up/drop off issueEx-husband Moved 45 Minutes Away The opposite gender relationship in a family (IMO) kinda shapes future relationships your daughter may have with boyfriends. Id love to tell you about the things I like. Shes a kid, with a kids sense of fairness, so that would probably be a good compromise, because right now, hes asking her to do all the changing. Sci-Fi is a great gateway to get kids interested in sciencethere was a museum exhibit traveling around called Star Wars: Where Science Meets Imagination, and theres a similar one about Indiana Jones and archaeology. there are people out there who dont know what This Old House is? I firmly believe that there is no such thing as reading too much. He does not say that to her but expresses it to me. (Its not in the joking way, either, but in the Temperance never gets to choose another movie again way.). (I threw it all up and cried. You may need to have a conversation with your husband and daughter separately to get to the bottom of whats going on. He did crossword puzzles so I sat down next to him so I could learn and now we do them together. They loved it, I hated it. Once they believe that true love need not be obligatory and that intimacy is not automatically correlated with entrapment, they are often eager to learn new ways to make their needs and fears knownand let love in. Your dad was probably not rolling his eyes and making disparaging remarks about your interests. We watched Eureka last year and our daughter loved it and talked about it with her friends. After all, the child is innocent and helpless, while the spouse is an adult who can take care of themselves. This is a throw away account. Plus, I gotta say, I dont love ripping into the mom for being Greedy , when it is understandable to want to foster such clearly shared interests with her daughter. That said, its important to try to resolve the conflict constructively. I grew up with my dad frequently clipping newspaper articles he wanted us to read, and instigating family learning moments around the table. She wasnt responding to the father though. I felt like he was listening, he felt like he was involved.. July 2, 2013, 12:17 pm. Your Husband & Daughter Don't Get Along: How to Resolve - TRN My father (and mother, if I want to be totally honest) would criticize anything that my sister and I had an interest in, regardless of how much value it did or did not have. I cant think of a single interest that we shared from when I was a teenager that I didnt learn from him in some way. July 2, 2013, 4:06 pm. A few years from now this guys daughter interests may have changed, but she wont be bothering to talk to him about it or anything at all, most likely. It cant be. (I highly recommend looking into how to cook with your fish encased in salt, something magical happens.). After all, they are two different people with two different perspectives. I read ahead in my history textbook during class because I liked it so much. What to do? Hubby drives drunk with our kids! - today.com You dont have to worship the same pop culture icons to have solid relationships. You May Not Know These 8 Things Are Pushing Your Husband Away - Lifehack I made him put on 2 more episodes before we stopped because we HAD to go to sleep. sarolabelle I mean freak out and force your kid to read something if they cant, not if you dont like that they choose to read Harry Potter in their free time. What kind of history and science is your husband into? This jealousy can manifest in destructive behavior, such as belittling his wife or trying to undermine her relationships with others. Lily in NYC In that instance, it is terrible timing and the dad should have listened to Indie when he came in in an emergency and the dad should have helped then and done the latin lesson later, but if that was a normal day home from scouting, then good for dad, because indie totally used that information later in life, even though it was annoying (and seemingly aloof) of his dad to be so demanding. This can be a normal and healthy part of adolescence, but it can also be painful for parents who feel like they are losing the close relationship they once had with their child. Or its hilarious I have seriously never watched football in my life, so I once got called on to do a touchdown dance. THIS. Its also important to take into account your daughters age and stage of development. You probably had no idea you were getting into this no-win relationship when it began. And yeh I hated going to home depot with my dad but I know a lot more about home maintenance than some people. Its so easy to kill that spark in a child, well done to the mum for supporting her daughter in doing what she loves! Make it easier for him to be his best self. Hes let me know so many times that when hes had a hard day, he loves a home-cooked meal, watching his favorite show, going to sleep, and then making love in the morning.