[2][3] Lindsay Ann Crouse's full name is an intentional tribute to the Broadway writing partnership of Lindsay and Crouse, which consisted of her father and his writing partner, Howard Lindsay. Wasn't Lindsay Course playing judges in the Law & Order franchise was that part of the reason why she got killed off in Buffy? Crouse was on her way to audition for Bob Rafelson's 1981 remake of The Postman Always Rings Twice, and jokingly Mamet told Crouse to tell Rafelson that "he was a fool if he didn't hire me to write the screenplay." On the other hand, with only Lindsey and Lilah left of Wolfram & Hart's Special Projects Team, their rivalry reached an all-time high as the two start a power struggle for the vice-presidency of the team as at the time neither of them was deemed fit to take the title. --from a usenet discussion. [9], They learned that Angel had nothing and the footage consisted of nothing but Cordelia and Wesley messing around; it not only embarrassed them when they acted suspiciously to stop the footage being shown, but it allowed the demon to take the money and return it to Anne. Walsh appears in the penultimate episode of Season Four, "Primeval," as a zombie, working under Adam along with others Adam has killed. Or just making sure. I heard Seth wanted out because he was getting more demand for movie workcause of his Austin Powers role instead of his Buffy role. Zombie Walsh attacks Buffy when she comes to Riley's rescue, but Buffy knocks her down and defeats her, and with some help from the Scooby-Gang of Willow, Xander, and Giles, she defeats Adam as well. The two wrote much of The Sound of Music. Opinion | Oscar-Nominated Film 'The Queen of Basketball': Lusia Harris Buffy: Why did Buffy and Riley split? Relationship explained There are just as many other werewolf stories out there that portray them as being normal humans when not in wolf form who can be killed just like any other person can be. reasons and the Big Bad arc had to be redesigned around Adam. Adam may be ridiculous, but is also a fun and fitting Big Bad. At least one traditional legend we have (as of now) been told isfalse: several people in episodes have said that leprechauns do notexist. Angel then hurled Winters out of the window of the tall building they were in, into the sunlight where he was burnt to dust. That was also the episode where Willow and her mother, Sheila, have an argument about Willow's involvement with the occult. Cordy (Charisma Carpenter) was introduced in the first episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.She was a teen drama archetype: the hot, rich, mean girl with a slew of sycophantic followers . Privacy Policy. Joss has said that Lindsay Crouse was difficult to work with, which led him to killing her off/reducing her role sooner. Sumati Marut, Cindy Lee, Rick Blue, Lindsay Crouse", "Actress brings Buddhist retreat to Windhover. Buffy the Vampire Slayer / What Could Have Been - TV Tropes As near as I can tell, there really are no "traditional" standards for vampires, at least if by that you mean "going back into actual myths and legends." A good guy. Express. A stunned Lindsey slumps against by a wall, outraged that he was killed by one of Angel's "flunkies" instead of the vampire himself. The character is portrayed by Lindsay Crouse. Nike and Pregnancy: Your Questions, Answered - The New York Times Blucas, now 48, joined the cast of Buffy in 1999 and this was his first major TV role, with the show acting as a springboard to a long-running TV and film career. We use your sign-up to provide content in ways you've consented to and to improve our understanding of you. "[1], In a gender studies text, Jowett includes a section on the character, and argues the character is "masculinized by her roles as professor, scientist and leader. > in article 130620022021411075%dsa@synapse.net, Don Sample at> dsa@synapse.net wrote on 6/13/02 7:24 PM:> > > In article <21ced21e.0206@posting.google.com>, Sam> > wrote:> >. It was she who restored Angel's soul at the conclusion of season two. You don't think she's just pining for the fjords? [INSIGHT]Buffy: How old was Sarah Michelle Gellar in Buffy The Vampire Slayer? [9] Crouse is also known for her role in the fourth season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, where she was a recurring supporting cast member playing Professor Maggie Walsh. Vampires were more primeval and didn't get emotionally involved withpeople or other vampires for that matter, There are more differences but I have forgotten the rest :-). Buffy defeats the demons and appears on the monitors after Walsh has prematurely announced Buffy's death to Riley, who walks out. So, the story I *thought* I knew was that Prof Walsh was the planned Big Bad for the season, but then Crouse departed the show early for (?) However Buffy seemed to prefer living in danger, and she could not get used to the idea of settling down with Riley while attempting to save the world. In my opinion, she was more of an appendage then a self-standing character when she was first introduced. The Initiative project is shut down permanently. Riley managed to remove the chip in his body and ripped out the tubes pumping blood to keep Walsh reanimated, killing her for good. Upon discovering this, Lindsey sent several top private investigators to find out who the intruder was. The WB/YouTube. It wasTara who got Willow down that path of heavy magic. Maggie Walsh was supposed to be a> > motherly type to Riley. On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:56:21 -0400, Timothy A. McDaniel wrote: Thoght ASH was supposed to be in the spin-off "Ripper". During the day vampires had to sleep in a coffin with its native soil init and would return to a death like state.3. She has a vision of what she wants to do. [citationneeded], Lindsey legally represented many vampires and demons, as well as evil humans. I don't know but I don't think Maggie Walsh would have been scary enough as the Big Bad on her own. I doubt it. It should have been layered a bit with fans even sympathizing with Walsh. The two had met during the production on Slap Shot. At first he enjoyed his new privileges, able to play his guitar again. The break was eventually detected and Lindsey, along with Lilah, Lee, and several other employees where searched by mind readers. Andaside from that, I dunno. Buffy: Why Eliza Dushku, Anthony Stewart Head Were Not At The Reunion The two agreed to fight the upcoming battle together and, at the end, resolve their differences, maybe even allowing Lindsey to take a powerful position at Wolfram & Hart as "the devil [they knew]. Many people don't realize sports are one of the best short cuts for the wealthy in elite college admissions. Claiming to receive visions from the Powers That Be, he gained Spike's cooperation and trust. The set up for the final battle between Buffy and Adam occured in episode 14. [1], While studying at University of California, Hastings College of the Law, Lindsey was recruited by Holland Manners to the law firm Wolfram & Hart. From what I've heard it was between Crouse's agent and ME; specifically money $$$. ", "For Mamet and Crouse, A Movie is a Family Affair. Also, zombies do not eat brains. [citationneeded], Angel is given the amulet which Spike eventually uses to destroy the Hellmouth in Sunnydale. the > exact opposite of this paragraph.> > Does anybody have definitive info?> > (Yeah, right, like I could tell if it was definitive based on a > Usenet posting). His relationship with Buffy also hit the rocks after he realised she could not love him in the way he wanted, as she was scared of emotional vulnerability. As opposed to just sort of misguided."[6]. Buffy Main Cast - IMDb Career Crouse made her Broadway debut in the 1972 revival of Much Ado About Nothing and appeared in her first film in 1976 in All the President's Men. The demon however, worked against them by causing a distraction with Angel so Anne could show a tape, suspected to have incriminating evidence against them. This also explains why they didn't think to ring in some othermilitary type as the big bad. Lindsay Crouse's departure and S04's Big Bad arc : buffy - reddit I doubt Oz would die from a bullet IMHO, unless he was shot in the head orsomething > > > That might have been the net result, but you would have to admit the> road travel to get to that point would have been much different. He said that she was a scientist, and that she was going to be doing research and eventually, she might hatch an evil plot, but her front was being a psychology teacher. This is USENET! Actual legends appear to be enormously miscellaneous and seldom include these familiar pieces, while they often *do* include pieces that we (and Hollywood) would say just belong to ghosts, werewolves, zombies, and the like. [citationneeded], Lindsey and Eve contrive a situation where Spike saves Angel from a demonic parasite (placed on an unconscious Angel by Eve), which simultaneously disheartened Angel, galvanized Spike, and adds weight and veracity to the claims made by "Doyle"/Lindsey. "Look at my generation. Better safe than splattered. Sunnydale in further> > episodes before it was all revealed to us.> > --. Not according to Joss. The person in charge was Maggie Walsh who was also Buffy's professor. Beating him down with his bare hands while apologizing for the fact Darla didn't love him and that he made the right choices, Angel used the sledgehammer to smash Lindsey's prosthetic hand, noting that Lindsey should be grateful he recently had an epiphany, as Angel could have easily destroyed Lindsey's remaining real hand instead. Marc Blucas: Why did Marc Blucas leave Buffy The Vampire Slayer? Adam> > was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. Lindsay Ann Crouse - Genealogy - geni family tree This allowed her to commit murder and get away due to her supposed disability. Her interest was given a menacing quality in "Gingerbread" when we first see Willow and Amy performing a magic ritual. [16] John Lahr writes in his book Show and Tell: New Yorker Profiles that when Mamet married Crouse in 1977, he "married into show business aristocracy". Lindsay Crouse is an actress who portrayed Maggie Walsh on the Buffy the Vampire Slayer television series. She is of Russian Jewish and Hungarian Jewish descent. Lindsay Ann Crouse is an American actress. --Help control the idiot population. During the ensuing battle, Lindsey attempted to burn a scroll that Angel needed to save Cordelia. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. He was known for being a jock-like character, who was a part of a secret initiative to capture demons and study them. Gellar has stated she believes Whedon's original intention was "was to put Xander and Buffy together. Perceiving that Buffy poses a risk to the project, Walsh tries to kill Buffy by sending her on a mission on which she is ambushed by two demons released from the Initiative's holding cells. [citationneeded], You kill me? Where Are the Workers? - The New York Times Angel fought Darla for it at the event and Lindsey tried to protect her from Wolfram & Hart, which tried to kill her. After Riley learns that Buffy is the Slayer, they inform Walsh of her role. You are using an out of date browser. (Presumably Watchers and other supernatural experts knew more). She tried to create a monster to help her plans and they just turned around and stabbed her through the stomach!!! [2], It was then that Lindsey decided to leave Wolfram & Hart permanently, despite the fact he was promoted. -- Tim McDaniel is tm@jump.net; if that fail, tm@us.ibm.com is my work account. For me, the character of Maggie Walsh is a great addition to this season. Failing in that, he gave information about Angel to police officer Kate Lockley, whose father had been recently killed by vampires, putting her in a vendetta against Angel. [10], Lindsey quickly replaced his hand with a new prosthetic and continued with his life, requiring pre-made ties for work and unable to play his guitar. was not that big if a surprise. Lindsay Crouse | Buffyverse Wiki | Fandom Whedon discussed with Nicholas Brendon and Sarah Michelle Gellar the idea of Buffy and Xander ending up together at the end of the final season, which the actors reportedly agreed. And ya know what, if Michelle Trachtenbergleft in the middle of season 7 I wouldn't mind that one bit. > > Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. DonnaMy opinions might have changed, but not the fact that I am right. So leaving actually saved his life. She's probably a mix of those two. He has also previously starred in Necessary Roughness and Underground, and fans may be interested to hear he used to be a college basketball player. [citationneeded], Though rivals at heart, Lindsey and Lilah were also forced to also work together. Attempting to finish off Project 314, begun by Walsh, Adam has his workers manufacturing more creatures like himself; part demon, human, and machine combined. [17], Lindsey later revealed the existence of the Circle of the Black Thorn, the Senior Partners' instrument on this plane, a secret society devoted to maintaining man's inhumanity in exchange for power. I remember when I was a kid, I read a lot of vampire comics. There were indications that the Initiative existed from the> first episode. Lindsey was left alone, beaten both physically and emotionally. [2], Lorne set him and Angel on the path that would end with the two working together to discover a Wolfram & Hart facility that specialized in unwilling transplant donors. [5], Buffy writer David Fury said in an interview, "I don't think Joss had envisioned Maggie Walsh as being entirely villainous. Her other films include Slap Shot (1977), Between the Lines (1977), The Verdict (1982), Prefontaine (1997), and The Insider (1999). the middle of season 7 I wouldn't mind that one bit. It wasn't a big deal to lose Lindsay Crouse a whole 9episodes earlier than planned. More recently, in season four, > > > Maggie (Lindsay Crouse was going to be much more of a mother figure> > for Riley, introducing him to> > > another girl to lure him away from Buffy. [FAN DISCUSSION]Buffy: Why does Sarah Michelle Gellar not want to return for reboot? Angel tried to catch her out by attacking her, thus forcing her to defend herself beyond the abilities of an average person in front of a court hearing with Lindsey as her defendant. Werewolves and silver bullets could be another false thing. 2000. Lindsey insisted to Lorne that he had changed, offering to sing for him so Lorne might read his future. Maybe my brain is just not functioning today, but who is this Ash person? Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver bullets We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what theywere made of. See today's front and back pages, download the newspaper, order back issues and use the historic Daily Express newspaper archive. 2. Both of . I've seen other published interviews that say Lindsay Crouse was disappointed to learn her character was destind to die halfway through the season-- i.e. [18], During the Fall of Los Angeles, the Senior Partners discussed with Wesley the possibility of replacing him with a "zombified McDonald" or Eve as their liaison to Angel. This is the first time I've ever heard this. Adam wasn't scary enough to be Big Bad on his own either, LOL. Kills me! However as his character grew in complexity, they started to appreciate his role in the series and said they were sad to see him leave. What was the original plan for Maggie Walsh? | Buffy-Boards After figuring out that his hand wasn't evil but rather suicidal, Lindsey pulled the plug on his friend and destroyed the facility, while saving those that could still be saved. The Initiative project is shut down permanently. She produced the Emmy-nominated Opinion Video series "Equal Play," which brought widespread reform to women's sports. Adam> > was a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. He talks about similar issues with Donald Sutherland & Glenn Quinn. Darla, however, secretly used his feelings to gain information from Wolfram & Hart to obtain a mystical ring from the Senior Partners during the Review. Notable roles include a recurring portrayal of Kate McBride, a lesbian police officer on Hill Street Blues during its sixth season in 1986. Maggie maintains a close relationship with Riley, who is her favorite soldier; she appears to think of him as a son. If I recall, was not one of Sunday's minions hit by a taser by a then unknown assailant? Certainly Tara's role would have been quite different,> > or maybe there wouldn't have been a Tara at all. > >> Though Cain, the werewolf hunter, did make a point of using silver> >> bullets> > > > We see Cain making his own bullets, but nothing is said about what they> > were made of.> > And why would he make his own bullets, then? Adamwas a last minute replacement as the Big Bad. Or it could be that the Watcher's Guide is a fluff piece and that's really how it happened. It could be that a longer presence for Walsh was considered in "rough draft" versions of the season-long arc but was then revised away, and writer discussions of this were erroneously morphed into a view that this was a last-minute change based on Crouse's departure. Actor Blucas simply left the series as his character was written out in the year 2000. ", "North Shore Film Festival wraps up on May 8 and 9. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: How many seasons of Buffy are there? You never will be.Lorne to Lindsey, Unlike most of Wolfram & Hart's other employees, Lindsey was not entirely devoid of a moral conscience. Learning that Angel planned to expose the truth, they hired an old demon enemy of his to kill him. Leaving Angel briefly to get his stake, Angel in that time recovered and turned the tables on Lindsey. Buffy the Vampire Slayer: Complete Series (1997-2003) was TV's most unlikely pop-culture phenomenon since The X-Files. ActuallyI think it would have upset me more to see Oz get shot infront of Willow. Big Bang Theory plot hole: Who is Eliza Dushku? When Buffy appeared at the secret laboratory to confront Adam and save Riley, the undead Walsh tried to attack her with a bone saw. Lindsay Crouse wanted out of her contract so she was killed off. Marc Blucas: The actor's first big role was in Buffy, Marc Blucas: Marc Blucas played Riley Finn. "[18], Lindsey destroyed the Sahrvin Clan with Lorne's assistance as planned. Whedon discussed with Nicholas Brendon and Sarah Michelle Gellar the idea of Buffy and Xander ending up together at the end of the final season, which the actors reportedly agreed. "[21], "Lindsay Crouse keeps up a Family Stage Tradition. Buffy has actually played on this a bit in "Buffy v Dracula" when Spike blames Dracula for spilling the beans about vampire weaknesses-- implying that before Dracula's story was written, most myth and legend knew little or nothing about them. [1][2], I guess it's fair to say you've never seen anything like real poverty. I think the way they went made it much scarier, though. Unknown to many in the Initiative, Walsh is also involved in Project 314, a secret program within the Initiative that is creating a hybrid demon-humanoid-mechanoid (demonoid) known as Adam. Buffy the Vampire Slayer spoilers: Who does Buffy end up with? She made her Broadway debut in the 1972 revival of Much Ado About Nothing and appeared in her first film in 1976 in All the President's Men. Walsh was basically working on something that was inhuman, which in turn could be explained by saying that Adam was born out of the dark part of Walsh's soul/mind. Riley later. The plan was averted as Spike, Cordelia, and Angel were able to uncover Lindsey's actions. "This is a matter of opinion--I disagree. And there> > > would have been far more Angel-Buffy angst if he hadn't gotten his> > own show. The vampires in Buffy don't exactly conform to traditionalstandards. > > > then we went, ehhh, forget it. See Lindsay Crouse full list of movies and tv shows from their career. I see that you're either the one with the power or you're powerless.Lindsey McDonald, Lindsey McDonald was a lawyer at Wolfram & Hart and both an enemy and ally of Angel Investigations. Buffy: Do Spike and Buffy really love each other? When Darla failed to persuade Angel to their side, thus stunting her mentality, Lindsey discovered he was in love with her despite her desire to become a vampire. Despite this, Angel finally defeated Lindsey and his comrades completed a ritual that dissolved the tattoos that protected Lindsey from the Senior Partners, and he was dragged away through a portal. Definatelynot as big of a surprise as how Warren died. 20 Years Later, and the Women of Angel Still Deserve More It may not display this or other websites correctly. In 1999, he worked with vampiric businessman Russell Winters, a client that because of Lindsey's and his firm's services, could feed on young women without alerting attention. ", Lindsey was originally going to appear in the "First Night" storyline of. I've been expecting Tara to leave orbe off the show for awhile, so her dying (Even though she's not REALLYgoneright? I think she'd like to fashion the world in her image, but Buffy puts a wrench in the works". I really enjoy the strong, challenging women that pop up in Buffy's world - Maggie Walsh, Jenny Calendar, Anya, & Tara to name a few. I would say "scheduling conflicts" is the Hollywood answer. Nevertheless, a new contract required her to kill the Holy Triumvirate, formed by three innocent children. You must log in or register to reply here. Whether or not Buffyverse werewolves have any sort of fast healing hasnever been established. Ooh, didn't know that. Maggie was supposed to be the season's Big Bad.> Maggie was supposed to drive a wedge between Buffy and Riley. Tara's death didn't even phase me. "It was obviously a great thing to be a part of. As Crouse has said: "In our family, the work ethic was held up as some kind of byword At any hour, somebody's typewriter was going."[5]. For her role in the 1984 film Places in the Heart, she received an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actress. Buffy star missed. Willow was headed down that path anyway and Tara was a fellow traveller. She feels like she's testing the boundaries of something, and any human being always feels important no matter who they are. Lindsay Crouse ( @lindsaycrouse) is a writer and producer in Opinion. . But it's easier to see how and why they might have madethat decision. Maggie Walsh | Buffyverse Wiki | Fandom The thing is would people have cared that Buffy and Riley were being drivenapart? Willow was heavy into magic since season two. And he is pretty darn cute to boot!! Since leaving Buffy, he went on to star in Knight & Day, Operation Christmas and Underground. Lindsey and Eve. Great actresses like Glenn Close and Susan Sarandonthere's nothing written for anyone over a certain age. "A Master in the Art of the Con. I'm not sure I'd have been desperately interested in the Maggie/Rileyrelationship. After David Boreanaz left "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," he went on to star as the eponymous antihero of the spin-off show "Angel," according to Screen Rant. The Big Bang Theory finale: Who did Sarah Michelle Gellar play? After a relationship with Robert Duvall,[15] Crouse married playwright David Mamet in 1977. Marc Blucas is an American actor who is best known for his role in the supernatural teen drama, Buffy The Vampire Slayer. Walsh initially thinks that Buffy can be a useful ally to the Initiative, but soon takes a dislike to her unpredictability and unwelcome curiosity, especially with regards to the "314 Project". Werewolves> and silver bullets could be another false thing. Starting in the mailroom, he quickly worked his way up, becoming one of Wolfram & Hart's most valued lawyers. Opinion | What Jon Gruden's Emails Tell Us About Cancel Culture - The That was what irked me at first about Tara. The show then went into a bunch of filler/side stories involving I liked Adam as a Big Bad though, because as well as being scary to look at it and wicked strong, it wasn't like he was actually Evil; he was just the creation of someone else's mind. A graduate of Harvard University, where she competed in both cross country and track and field, Lindsay is a senior staff editor and senior OpDocs producer at The New York Times. Buffy the Vampire Slayer. (The writers could change their minds, of course, and makethem crucial to the season seven finale, say, but that's the currentcanon.) > > > Now that the first season is out on DVD, can you tell us about storylines that never made the cut?> > >> > > Actually, there were a lot of things we were going to do and never did. Or that > > lets face it. --Doctor Who ************************************************************************, I wonder. "[2], Crouse has explained how her character was initially explained to her, "Joss tried to explain to me who this character was. [2] [citationneeded], Together, Lindsey and Eve manipulate events so that Spike, not Angel, proves (or at least appears to the Senior Partners) to be the ensouled vampire foretold in the Scrolls of Aberjian, the one who will have a crucial impact in the Apocalypse and fulfill the Shanshu Prophecy. In "The Freshman", antagonist Sunday was originally going to be a Slayer who had been turned into a vampire, explaining how she was able to nearly effortlessly defeat Buffy the first time they fought.Instead, she simply became an unusually savvy and powerful vampire. ""Are you kidding? Explore Tumblr Posts and Blogs tagged as #lindsay crouse with no restrictions, modern design and the best experience | Tumpik. 2. In fact, while, under the assumption that she'd left the show early, I used to think that that reanimated corpse prof Walsh (in Primeval) was just an extra in prosthetics, it turns out that it was actually herself (Crouse) coming back to the show as planned all along. One their schemes involved organizing a charity event with Anne Steele, operator of the East Hills Teen Center, to improved Wolfram & Hart's image and secretly steal the donations. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Season Six; Tabula Rasa, SPIKE: I must be a noble vampire. Lindsey hopes that once the Senior Partners realize the folly of attempting to seduce Angel to their cause, that he will be stripped of his position at Wolfram & Hart, leaving a power vacuum which Lindsey could fill, gaining a measure of revenge on Angel. He was eventually rescued by Angel, Spike, and Charles Gunn for information they need. She is also a Grammy Award nominee. This transcript is intended to be used for criticism, comment, and research purposes. Or perhaps, just perhaps, he knew about the legends that werewolves can onlybe killed by a silver bullet. She's rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. An interesting thing about Joss is he's not very diplomatic, I like that about him. Episode review: Columbo Sex and the Married Detective (Actually, in _Wild at Heart_ Oz still hasscratches from his first encounter with Veruca several hours later, sohe can't heal too fast. [1], Lindsey used his pass to get Angel past security so he could steal disks with information against his colleagues. Zombie Walsh attacks Buffy when she comes to Riley's rescue, but Buffy knocks her down and defeats her, and with some help from the Scooby-Gang of Willow, Xander, and Giles, she defeats Adam as well.